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Old 12-27-2023, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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Some 80 year olds are older than other 80 year olds are. Your grandmother was a young 75 year old and she was probably still active and independent when she was 80.

I remember being in college and thinking how ancient 50 seemed. I couldn't imagine myself ever being that old. Now that I'm pushing 60, I realize how young 50 still is.
Yes. When I was a teenager, a friend of my parents died of a heart attack at 56. They were shocked and upset but I was thinking, "What did they expect? He was OLD!"

Now I am 65. 80 is old. For now.
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Old 12-27-2023, 09:51 AM
 
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"We all know that people...like never before..."

I don't know any more people who have suddenly died since covid than before covid (unless they died from covid).

But if you'd like to show us actual data...we'll wait.
It's popular claim among anti-vaxxers. Unfortunately the links generally provided about people dying suddenly not long after the shot on P&OC include people like Hank Aaron...who was 86.

I believe my late fiancé's condition may have partially been caused by the COVID vaccine, and his doctor said she was open to the idea because her father died of a heart attack the night he got his first flu shot and he thinks it was connected. We will never know, and his death was not sudden anyway. But the people wanting to make the connection between the COVID vaccines and sudden death are not interested in doing so for medical knowledge reasons but rather politics. So far I've seen nothing that convinces me.

A close friend died suddenly at 55 from a brain aneurysm. A week later, a former coworker died of a heart attack at her desk at 54. Both of these deaths occurred in January of 2020.

Sudden death not in old age is a long-known occurrence of humans, and it happens in other animals, too.
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Old 12-27-2023, 10:32 AM
 
Location: 'greater' Buffalo, NY
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Maybe read the link before commenting?

"..The sudden unexpected death in North Carolina project is a registry of 399 out of hospital sudden death cases among adults aged 18 to 64 within Wake County, North Carolina, attended by emergency medical services (EMS) from 2013 to 2015 and adjudicated by cardiologists.."
That's way too much to ask. I doubt that person knows the meaning of the word 'adjudicated'
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Old 12-27-2023, 10:41 AM
 
Location: U.S.A.
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I doubt that person knows the meaning of the word 'adjudicated'
You're just mad cuz you probably went and got quadruple vaxxed
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Old 12-27-2023, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Avignon, France
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That’s how I want to go…suddenly, rather than suffering a lingering illness.
By the look on her face… she didn’t see that coming.
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Old 12-27-2023, 11:11 AM
 
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You're just mad cuz you probably went and got quadruple vaxxed
If so it hasn't affected his ability to read critically and not just post political crap knee-jerk reactions.
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Old 12-27-2023, 12:00 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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I believe it's more likely nutrient imbalances, specifically a chronic magnesium deficiency that most of society have to one degree or another. Magnesium helps regulate heart rhythm and is an important counter to excess dietary calcium. Most people get too much calcium and not enough magnesium.

Most would benefit from 300mg daily magnesium malate or magnesium glycinate supplementation.

https://www.google.com/search?q=magnesium+sudden+death
I had a close friend, or as close as an Internet friend can be, who lost his wife through something like that. He called it an "electrical imbalance" but I believe it was this kind of situation.
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And all the 'sudden deaths" before covid?
This death was in April 2007.
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Old 12-27-2023, 12:08 PM
 
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It's the vaxx, we're just not supposed to say it out loud.

LOL, sudden death has been happening since time began
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Old 12-27-2023, 02:09 PM
 
Location: PNW
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Some 80 year olds are older than other 80 year olds are. Your grandmother was a young 75 year old and she was probably still active and independent when she was 80.

I remember being in college and thinking how ancient 50 seemed. I couldn't imagine myself ever being that old. Now that I'm pushing 60, I realize how young 50 still is.

Yes, and they do not put "unexpected" on our 60-year-old death certificates. So, there's that. Death is not a surprise for us now (as we are technically old).
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Old 12-27-2023, 02:20 PM
 
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This. The cases I know of involved people who were strong as oxen, and still in what could be called the prime of life. Maybe in the later-phase prime, but still young and very productive: pillars of their community on whom many people depended.
Yes - active, vibrant people and it's like a light switch is suddenly flipped off.
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