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Old 12-27-2023, 07:13 AM
 
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Lol, I'm not quite ready for the "she's so OLD" designation.

But who is?
LOL! I remember my grandmother telling me that "Old Lady Smith" next door had died. Old Lady Smith was 80. My grandmother was 75 at the time (she would make it to 94).
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Old 12-27-2023, 07:28 AM
 
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Old 12-27-2023, 07:42 AM
 
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"Safe and effective!"
Oh please, nice try.
The quoted article is about 10+ year old data.
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Old 12-27-2023, 07:51 AM
 
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Oh please, nice try.
The quoted article is about 10+ year old data.
I'm not referring to this article.

We all know that people - especially "young, healthy" people - are inexplicably suddenly collapsing or dropping dead from cardiac and clotting/stroke events like never before, and a good number of us think we know why.
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Old 12-27-2023, 08:06 AM
 
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I'm not referring to this article.

We all know that people - especially "young, healthy" people - are inexplicably suddenly collapsing or dropping dead from cardiac and clotting/stroke events like never before, and a good number of us think we know why.
Then it's a post hijack. This particular study is what the OP posted.
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Old 12-27-2023, 08:12 AM
 
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LOL! I remember my grandmother telling me that "Old Lady Smith" next door had died. Old Lady Smith was 80. My grandmother was 75 at the time (she would make it to 94).
Some 80 year olds are older than other 80 year olds are. Your grandmother was a young 75 year old and she was probably still active and independent when she was 80.

I remember being in college and thinking how ancient 50 seemed. I couldn't imagine myself ever being that old. Now that I'm pushing 60, I realize how young 50 still is.
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Old 12-27-2023, 08:20 AM
 
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Some 80 year olds are older than other 80 year olds are. Your grandmother was a young 75 year old and she was probably still active and independent when she was 80.

I remember being in college and thinking how ancient 50 seemed. I couldn't imagine myself ever being that old. Now that I'm pushing 60, I realize how young 50 still is.
There's a whole lotta truth in that.
I know a few 80s at Planet Fitness. And I know a few more who don't go to a gym. I know a 90s who doesn't go to a gym because she is too busy maintaining her 10 acres - uses a chainsaw, sometimes, although she recently bought herself an electric one.


"Too old to die young"...... I love that phrase.
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Old 12-27-2023, 08:31 AM
 
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A few years ago, at 51, one of my younger brothers began to experience swelling in his lower legs. He went to the doctor, who ran a bunch of tests and found that my brother has a weak heart muscle, a muscle that pushes the blood back out of the heart (I am not a medical person so I don't know the correct term for it.) There's no surgery to help it, just medication that strengthens the muscle action and diet, primarily low-sodium, healthier food choices. The doctor said it's likely genetic. We can only guess that this is what killed the males so early in my dad's family.
Sounds like congestive heart failure. It's relatively common, and most of the time these cases are environmental rather than genetic. OTOH, it's definitely possible to inherit a greater risk from your parents.
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Old 12-27-2023, 09:22 AM
 
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The weird thing is of the sudden deaths that I'm aware of, a good many of them were healthy, even youngish people.

Look at people like Keith Richards (love him!) who has looked like he's been cheating death for decades compared to John Ritter who looked like he still had plenty of years left on this planet.

There have been healthy marathon runners who have dropped dead. Life can be really random.
This. The cases I know of involved people who were strong as oxen, and still in what could be called the prime of life. Maybe in the later-phase prime, but still young and very productive: pillars of their community on whom many people depended.
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Old 12-27-2023, 09:24 AM
 
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I'm not referring to this article.

We all know that people - especially "young, healthy" people - are inexplicably suddenly collapsing or dropping dead from cardiac and clotting/stroke events like never before, and a good number of us think we know why.
"We all know that people...like never before..."

I don't know any more people who have suddenly died since covid than before covid (unless they died from covid).

But if you'd like to show us actual data...we'll wait.
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