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Old 01-07-2024, 08:02 AM
 
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ms is caused by gut dysbiosis and/or leaky gut. it's reversible without drugs.

chol is made and cleared by the liver. the question that needs to be answered is why is the liver doing what it's doing? it's certainly not from a lack of statins/other drugs
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Old 01-07-2024, 10:35 AM
 
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ms is caused by gut dysbiosis and/or leaky gut. it's reversible without drugs.
Yes metsym is reversible without drugs. Could be gut is involved, as it is involved in many things. But metsym is ALSO caused by high refined carb intake, and not enough physical exercise. The mitochondria in muscle cells get overwhelmed by too much glucose, so the cells start to resist insulin (insulin is what brings glucose into cells).

Insulin resistance, as most people know, is what causes metsym, pre-diabetes, and type 2 diabetes. And those are the major causes of the common modern lifestyle diseases.

To reverse metsym, diet should be very low carb for a while, and there should be enough moderate exercise.

(By the way, I call it metsym instead of ms, to avoid confusion with multiple schlerosis the autoimmune disease).

Taking statins for metsym makes NO SENSE AT ALL, and actually can make it worse because it raises blood glucose.

About half of Americans probably have or are heading for metsym. Why aren't MDs considering this before prescribing statins? I think it's partly ignorance, and partly the drug industry marketing.
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Old 01-07-2024, 06:43 PM
 
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Yes metsym is reversible without drugs. Could be gut is involved, as it is involved in many things. But metsym is ALSO caused by high refined carb intake, and not enough physical exercise. The mitochondria in muscle cells get overwhelmed by too much glucose, so the cells start to resist insulin (insulin is what brings glucose into cells).

Insulin resistance, as most people know, is what causes metsym, pre-diabetes, and type 2 diabetes. And those are the major causes of the common modern lifestyle diseases.

To reverse metsym, diet should be very low carb for a while, and there should be enough moderate exercise.

(By the way, I call it metsym instead of ms, to avoid confusion with multiple schlerosis the autoimmune disease).

Taking statins for metsym makes NO SENSE AT ALL, and actually can make it worse because it raises blood glucose.

About half of Americans probably have or are heading for metsym. Why aren't MDs considering this before prescribing statins? I think it's partly ignorance, and partly the drug industry marketing.

sorry, i was talking about multiple sclerosis, didnt read very well. doesnt really matter though -- bad gut precedes messed up blood sugar too
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Old 01-07-2024, 11:12 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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...taking statins is counterproductive -- it's treating the marker of health problems with chemicals, and not focusing on the cause/actual problem. bonus -- horrific short and long term side effects
Statins decrease the activation of Rho through the same mechanism through which they decrease cholesterol levels. Their ability to decrease the activation of Rho correlates with their ability to decrease cholesterol levels. Rho activation suppresses the levels of nitric oxide made by the blood vessel wall, which increases the risk of atherosclerosis.

By inhibiting the activation of Rho, statins greatly increase the amount of nitric oxide made by the blood vessel lining. This results in a great reduction in the magnitude of stroke, and its residual neurological effects. There is also further evidence that statins protect against stroke by increasing the body's ability to dissolve blood clots, independently of both nitric oxide and cholesterol.
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