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Old 01-22-2023, 07:36 AM
 
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Hopefully this passes muster.


https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/20/covi...top-risks.html



‘Utterly unprepared’: Larry Summers says another Covid-scale problem is a top economic risk

"...They included the possibility of the Covid-19 virus mutating again, which he noted that no other panelist had brought up when discussing the global economic outlook.

Summers took part in the session alongside IMF Managing Director Kristalina Georgieva, ECB President Christine Lagarde, French Finance Minister Bruno Le Maire and Bank of Japan Governor Haruhiko Kuroda.

Summers said his top concerns were a resurgence of inflation because of a loss of central bank credibility; high debt in many regions and the potential need for "financial firefighting domestically and globally" if interest rates rise more than anticipated; hyper-populism impacting elections; and geopolitical risks in Asia and the Middle East providing a "potential destabilizing wildcard."

"I would note that the odds in my view are better than 50-50 that there will be a Covid-scale problem within the next 15 years and that the world is utterly unprepared for that eventuality," he said.
Larry Summers is always crying wolf about something, it's what he lives for...
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Old 01-22-2023, 08:02 AM
 
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I have been wiping down cart handles before Covid. Young children sat in cart with diapers on, snotty noses, etc. People who don't wash their hands after the bathroom. Sneezes from previous cart pusher. Leaking packages of chicken and pork, with drips that have dried and cannot be seen. I'm not a germ phobe, but I do like a clean cart handle.
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I agree. And if someone who is (knowingly or not) positive for COVID-19 and is holding on to the cart handles, coughing or sneezing, the next person touches it and then puts their hand to their nose, mouth or ear.... No thanks.
All these are good reasons to disinfect the shopping carts right away. I wonder how many virus infections we might have avoided if we'd been doing this long before Covid arrived?
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Old 01-22-2023, 09:28 AM
 
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All these are good reasons to disinfect the shopping carts right away. I wonder how many virus infections we might have avoided if we'd been doing this long before Covid arrived?
I've been doing this for years, ever since I saw brown poop on a shopping cart seat at Target.
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Old 01-22-2023, 10:26 AM
 
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I've been doing this for years, ever since I saw brown poop on a shopping cart seat at Target.
Diapered kids shouldn't be allowed to sit where they do in those grocery carts. I don't know why that ever became an acceptable thing. If the kids can't walk, leave them with a sitter.
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Old 01-22-2023, 03:03 PM
 
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to us, Covid is just another flu bug.

only my BIL has had it in our extended family.
he responded just like all the other "flus".
nothing extraordinary.
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Old 01-22-2023, 04:31 PM
 
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All these are good reasons to disinfect the shopping carts right away. I wonder how many virus infections we might have avoided if we'd been doing this long before Covid arrived?

Most people make the germs stronger in their attempts to disinfect. The surface has to stay wait for several minutes for the germs to die. Most people just grab a wipe, wipe it and dry it and go. We end up making the germs able to survive disinfectants.
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Old 01-22-2023, 07:48 PM
 
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I have always cringed each time I was forced to touch a public item like a handrail or a bathroom door handle.
I use a paper towel or an elbow anytime I can.
Being in a hospital makes near militant about my safety habits.
No elevators and I bring my own safety wipes.
I’m pro mask at hospitals.

I’m not sure how I’d respond if I saw a brown “thing” on a shopping cart.
I think I’d request see the manager though to get them more aware/involved and proactive.
If I were the manager I’d want to know.
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Old 01-23-2023, 07:34 AM
 
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Most people make the germs stronger in their attempts to disinfect. The surface has to stay wait for several minutes for the germs to die. Most people just grab a wipe, wipe it and dry it and go. We end up making the germs able to survive disinfectants.
I've never seen a shopper dry what they just disinfected. Most wipe and go, caring little about the wet handle. Yes it does kill the germs, not make them stronger.
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Old 01-23-2023, 07:38 AM
 
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I've never seen a shopper dry what they just disinfected. Most wipe and go, caring little about the wet handle. Yes it does kill the germs, not make them stronger.
It doesn't. because it dries too fast. I'm reading a cylinder of disinfectant wipes right now. It says the surface must be WET for 4 minutes. It dries in less than one minute. So if it takes 4 minutes to kill the germs, but it's actually wet for only 1 minute, than you make the germs a little sick, a few die, the strongest survive, and evolve to be resistant to disinfectant. I think the preponderous of use of antibacterial everything has made us sicker.
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Old 01-23-2023, 09:37 AM
 
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It doesn't. because it dries too fast. I'm reading a cylinder of disinfectant wipes right now. It says the surface must be WET for 4 minutes. It dries in less than one minute. So if it takes 4 minutes to kill the germs, but it's actually wet for only 1 minute, than you make the germs a little sick, a few die, the strongest survive, and evolve to be resistant to disinfectant. I think the preponderous of use of antibacterial everything has made us sicker.
Sorry, but that process makes no sense to me and it sounds like an inferior product. I just read my name brand wipes and it says to sanitize hard, nonporous surfaces: Wipe surface; use enough wipes for treated surfaces to remain visibly wet for 30 seconds and let surface dry.

I read labels at the store before I buy stuff.
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