moderate arthritis in knee (advantage, effects, ears, supplement)
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TFW46 thanks for the info I will have to get some of that and try it. If I was not still working my Knees would not hurt as bad but after 2, 12 hr shifts of being on my feet most of the 12 hrs the pain becomes unbearable. I use to work 3, 12 hr shifts but 3 years ago my knees started hurting more so I went part time so 2 a week and until a couple months ago it did help but now 2 seems to be too many. I plan to retire Dec 2022 so do not have long to go but would like to be able to enjoy retirement and not be in pain when I do.
Dashdog, as I recall, it took a while -- maybe a week or two -- for me to feel the full effect. Please report back here and let us know how it works for you. I like the fact that I take just one small pill a day and that it's not an NSAID.
I am 63 and have had knee pain for years but until recently it has not slowed me down. The past 2 months it has gotten very painful and after working my 12 hr shifts or taking my dogs on long walks the pain is very severe. OCT meds and topical creams or knee sleeves/ braces really do not do much so I went to see an orthopedic surgeon.
The surgeon did X-rays and said it is moderate arthritis in both knees and was shocked that the one knee has no pain. He said it is not at the point where he would want to do surgery yet as there are other things to try. I know the new knees do not last for ever so the longer one waits the better chances are of not having to do it again so I was happy to hear no surgery at this point but then again the pain does effect my life.
He wants me to try some prescription Nsaids despite my saying Nsaids upset my stomach so not a fan of them and he wants me to do PT. I would never want to do Nsaids long term as they are hard on the body. He said there are several different injections we could try too so I am wondering who has tried injections and which ones worked? I do work in health care so know all to well what works for one person may not work for another person but I m curious if people have found one type seems to work better then another?
I had cortisone injections in both knees for years before getting both knees replaced. They work very well for a long time. As my Ortho doctor said, if it doesn’t hurt, it doesn’t matter. At some point, the shots will stop working, but until they do, it’s worth a try.
You just don't want to get more than 2 or 3 steroid injections per year because it can thin the cartilage further. The hyaluronic acid type shots (Synvisc, Euflexxa) don't have that effect but not everyone tolerates them well.
You just don't want to get more than 2 or 3 steroid injections per year because it can thin the cartilage further. The hyaluronic acid type shots (Synvisc, Euflexxa) don't have that effect but not everyone tolerates them well.
Right, but the doctor won’t give them more often than that anyway. I had the euflexxa shots once, but didn’t see much improvement. It was probably because nothing was going to work at that point.
Right, but the doctor won’t give them more often than that anyway. I had the euflexxa shots once, but didn’t see much improvement. It was probably because nothing was going to work at that point.
I think they'll give you whatever you want, but they might advise you about the risks of doing it too frequently.
I have the same situation, one knee has some damage plus arthritis and I have arthritis all over my body. I was on NSAIDs for several years but they have now irritated my digestive tract. So that is a no. My arthritis doctor told me take 500 mg curcumin 2x a day. It helps my pain so much. I have also found some herbal tinctures that help with the pain but there is no cure. My knee doctor told me it is very common to have one knee be worse than the other. My non-bad knee never hurt until this year. I am about your age. I have had 3 HA shots in the knee, it hurts like fire, but it has helped my bad knee to stop grinding bone on bone. I wear really good shoes. I order them online and they run about $150 a pair. I would suggest you get really good arch support shoes to wear to work. Six months and trash them as they will be worn out. Consider that you may be pronating in your feet on that one side so the knee is more damaged. Gravity Defyer shoes or Vionics might help, I wear Drew shoes because I need the stiff soles for my feet arthritis. I also wear rocker shoes, my current brand is MBT. I must wear a different shoe each day and always at home at least a house shoe with good sole and arch support. I can not exercise without terrible pain but I am not bad enough for a knee replacement either. I am also not wanting one as the surgery and recovery is intense. You might also look into far infrared knee "braces" they are really "sleeves". I also like Tommy Cooper knee sleeves but they run smaller than one would think. It is more learning to manage the knee pain and you may have to consider how your job impacts your pain. I wish you well.
Also there is some research that shows the steroid shots are bad for the cartilage long term, it degrades it and that the HA shots also don't work according to double blind studies. They worked for me, no more grinding bone on bone but today I still have a lot of pain cause it is cool and raining.
I also found some knit knee sleeves on Amazon that are like socks for your knees or do not compress. I often wear these under pants or while sleeping. It seems to keep the joint warmer I guess and it doesn't ache so much.
Also there is some research that shows the steroid shots are bad for the cartilage long term, it degrades it and that the HA shots also don't work according to double blind studies.
Some steroid isn't necessarily bad but TOO MUCH steroid is bad for the cartilage, which I mentioned in a previous post. That's why you want to limit it to about 3 times per year. And its more accurate to say that the studies are mixed on HA, rather than say they show it doesn't work. If that was the case my insurance wouldn't cover it. Studies are mixed on steroid injections too, but they clearly work for many and it certainly appears that HA does too. And 26 hours after my first HA injections I have not had any adverse reactions at all. But I know some people do have some unpleasant reactions and you must be one. That can happen with cortisone too, but after about 5 or 6 steroid injections in wrists and knees I've never had any.
I can already report results from the cortisone in my left knee. Even with the very small dose they gave me, my pain is dramatically improved almost to the point of no pain. For the first time in the 10 years that knee has bugged me, I had started to lose some mobility due to pain and stiffness. It feels 90% better now. I have no pain, and I have full mobility again for the first time in months.
Not much change on the right side where I had only the Synvisc, but I wasn't expecting any rapid changes there. I get the 2nd Synvisc shots next week. The pain is quite bearable on the right so I'm going to skip the cortisone again because I really want to see what Synvisc alone does
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