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Old 03-25-2021, 01:00 AM
 
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The doing pretzel twists of logic like going from 6ft to 3ft is aimed to get kids back in school. Schools arent big enough for 6ft spacing unless you split shift with some kids one day and some another.

So why the big push to get kids in school? Cause school is our defacto national subsidized child care. You have kids stay at home, then one parent has to be there too. And if there is only one parent.... Either way the parent staying home with the kid isnt at work and the economy suffers.

Greed over health has been the Achilles heel of this pandemic. If we had put health first and then tracked instead of worrying about lost profits and try to open things up too early OVER AND OVER AGAIN. The countries that got it under control shut things down cold and track, track, track. They got back to normal activities lot sooner with far fewer deaths than this on again, off again foolishness. They also arent afraid to shut things down cold when any new cases show up.

 
Old 03-25-2021, 03:42 AM
 
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The moment the vaccine was announced to be effective in Nov. 2020, I went ahead and booked my plane tickets for September 2021. Support the airline industry in advance!
 
Old 03-25-2021, 03:56 AM
 
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I have heard where I work that we'll never travel again like we did before the pandemic now that everyone is used to meeting through video calls.
 
Old 03-25-2021, 04:16 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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They plan to wait for herd immunity, a stance that could temper initial recovery.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...ty/6970810002/





FYIIW, MrsM and I are part of the 25-30% who will wait a few months longer


I'm a Pharmacist and many of my friends are virologists, epidemiologists and public health specialists. We are all waiting to see what the next few months bring as more and more people are vaccinated.


Several of them, who have worked with several Presidential administrations going back to Aids, Ebola, SARS, MERS and now COVID, along with other viral diseases, think that Italy is the canary in the coal mine


So, we'll wait and see, even if it's at the risk of economic recovery
Individual freedom.

As soon as the restaurants opened up around here - we started going back to them. I was on a plane last fall and it was packed. Then another plane to return home... it was also packed... Everyone masked up for the long flights, and guess what... nothing happened.

Life continues.
 
Old 03-25-2021, 05:15 AM
 
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We're getting close to that now. About 25% vaccinated, another 25% with "nature's vaccination" (recovered), and 25% are kids that are virtually unaffected.
There is an overlap in the groups though. I know several people who have gotten the virus and the vaccine.
 
Old 03-25-2021, 06:37 AM
 
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They plan to wait for herd immunity, a stance that could temper initial recovery.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...ty/6970810002/
I've seen them...driving alone in their cars wearing a mask.
 
Old 03-25-2021, 06:52 AM
 
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Question is, when will sufficient number of people be vaccinated? Given the current shortages and all the bull**** and politicking chances are we won’t reach that level until end of summer at best and we’ll always have millions upon millions of anti-vaccer idiots passing the virus around and letting it mutate.

PS: got mine - folks, be friendly with your pharmacist so you get a call when there are leftover doses available!
 
Old 03-25-2021, 07:21 AM
 
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In America, and I suspect a great portion of the world, we have generations who have never had to take responsibility for anything. There was always a "safety net" beneath them to bail them out no matter the behavior which they selected.

With COVID, we are dealing with something quite different. It stems from mother nature. She can be, to say the least, quite harsh at times.

Given that we have so many people who ignore the guidelines (the "it will never affect me crowd", like those we see partying in Florida), and those who refuse to get vaccinated, and those who were told, and believe, that the whole thing is a big "Chinese" hoax, we are in for a VERY long road before this disease might be sequestered.

It will continue to affect schools, jobs, the economy, and every part of our society. Maybe we are in the very early stages...third inning kind of thing, with only the most optimistic (and probably ill informed) thinking that we can travel freely, go back to work, socialize without restriction, and simply avoid the behaviors which might get us to the end of this horrific period in our history.

But don't think that that is going to happen soon. We are talking YEARS; not months. Maybe this will be known as the decade of the pandemic which destroyed some large percent of the world, not because so many people died directly from the disease, which number is already large, but because we in America are an unhealthy group to begin, and having a virus which affects and attacks the most vulnerable means the fallout from such harsh infection will take millions of lives in collateral damage.

This virus is not to be trifled with. We have not even gotten to the stage yet where people really fear COVID. What is the first step towards recovery? Accepting that we have a problem. America is nowhere near that point yet. I live in a state where the numbers were horrible--the worst in America. We slipped slightly, and now our numbers are soaring again. No masks, no distancing, the whole thing is a joke.

And then they and their family died from horrific suffocation while the virus ravaged their lungs.
 
Old 03-25-2021, 07:27 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Question is, when will sufficient number of people be vaccinated? Given the current shortages and all the bull**** and politicking chances are we won’t reach that level until end of summer at best and we’ll always have millions upon millions of anti-vaccer idiots passing the virus around and letting it mutate.

PS: got mine - folks, be friendly with your pharmacist so you get a call when there are leftover doses available!

Don't be too quick to throw everyone in that anti-vax category of yours. I have actual allergies and can't have it, neither can my daughter. We have compromised immune systems too. We make sure we stay in unless we really have to go out so that we don't catch that virus.
 
Old 03-25-2021, 07:42 AM
 
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Fauci has been wrong about so much of this.
So has every other expert. Our knowledge of COVID developed over a long period and it was changing almost weekly. I'll admit to having sprayed down my groceries and "quarantined" non-perishables in my garage for awhile early on. I think they finally nailed it when they came on the combination of proximity + length of time exposed + force of respiration (breathing, talking, singing, etc.).

I'm getting my second dose in 2 days. I won't do much different except feel more comfortable about the jury duty I had scheduled last December (WTH were they thinking?) and moved to late May. I have 3 major trips scheduled: Eastern Europe in June, Belize and Guatemala in October and Peru and the Galapagos in May of next year. I'm most concerned about the Eastern Europe trip- I fly through London both ways and several countries in Europe are getting hit again. It can be postponed with no penalty.

I will still mask, drive where possible, stay out of most dine-in restaurants and avoid crowds. I'm also not sure when I can take my granddaughters to Chicago again- we were going to go in May of last year. Didn't happen, of course. It's an hour plane trip and that was part of the thrill when I took the older one. So was the subway. They're 7 and 4 now. It may not be till next year, but DS and DDIL and I will have to agree on when.
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