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CDC is a for-profit corporation with obvious ties to the pharmaceutical industry (which thrives on keeping people sick and dependent on wildly expensive drugs)...
You're confusing the CDC with the CDC Foundation. The former is not for profit and is a federal agency.
"The virus itself is a doozy, even with a best-case scenario version like mine. You get a little better and then you get a little worse. A few days ago, after nearly a week off work, I thought I had finally turned the corner. That night, I got lightheaded getting out of a hot bath and passed out walking back to my room."
Our temps this coming week here in Poconos are going to be highs in 50's and lows in 30's. Already starting to get dark by 7 PM.
Yeah, let's enjoy outdoor dining at restaurants in the NE. BTW, just read a report to expect a mass migration of birds here to the South in the next two nights. Maybe wildlife is not as stupid as some humans are.
I'm sure some parts of Florida are safer than others. If you were in Miami-Dade vs maybe some town off of the beaten path. I'd say it's too risky. It's like that here as well. There are counties with very low numbers. We live about 20 minutes from the loop of Chicago in part of the urban sprawl belt. Our cases are high in our county. Our neighbors daughter was in school for just two hours a couple of times and caught it. Her mom showed symptoms sooner so the daughter went to live with her dad not knowing that she too was positive. Yes most will recover, but how do you know if you're one of the unlucky ones that doesn't like that 30 year old male nurse that died from it in one of the hospitals I used to work in? How do you know you won't be in the hospital and rehab for months because of Covid? That's the problem. You don't know until you catch it what it's going to do to your body and what if any lasting complications you may or may not have. If you're looking at it in the just about me perspective, you may also be an asymptomatic carrier spreading it to some one else that may not be so lucky having it, or God forbid, a child that dies from it. We all have to do our part to safeguard the lives of others more vulnerable. It's just the right thing to do.
The sad part about this whole nightmare is that we could have stopped it early on. I saw an interesting interview with the vice president of Taiwan. He's an epidemiologist and he discussed how there was no shut down of their economy and less than 1,000 cases, and a handful of deaths. It's very sad that we could not have followed their science based model early on. All of this was so unnecessary.
Yes we support our local restaurants with curb side pick up or delivery. Right now we are taking a lot of risk going for supplies for the rental property we plan on selling. I'd rather not go, but right now we have no choice. Restaurants? Meh, it's just food not worth the added risk of dining in for.
so you saw an interview: wow!!! that's make everything you think 100% right, is that what you are saying? We do no know how we could have slowed this down, but I, for one do not think we could have stopped it as you are saying. Regardless of the age situation, underlining conditions of anything else the death rate and seriousness of the virus is still very, very low. Of course some are more likely to get it and get truly sick but still the chances, even for them is low as long as we practice common sense.
I'm fortunate to live in a place where you really can enjoy eating out all year round. However, the restaurant where my daughter works reopened indoor dining last week (they also have a very large outdoor patio). She reported that they have been full to capacity every day; of course "capacity" right now is only 25% of their actual indoor space. So at least 25% of their normal clientele is happy to eat inside again.
We've been living as normally as possible since this all started. Husband goes to work every day, daughters go to work 3-4 times per week, we attend church weekly, we've gone on vacation and eaten out, we have friends and family over to our house. If we had stayed locked inside for the past six months, our physical health couldn't have been any better (though our mental and financial health would have been a lot worse). But by not staying home quarantining are we the problem? This would have been all over by now if not for people like us?
As soon as cafes opened up, we went but only outdoor seating. By ourselves. To support the businesses and just to get out. Servers were all masked. This was/is in Portugal and Ecuador.
The other day, we let our guard down and 2 friends we hadn't seen for months joined us and another neighbor for cocktails on his balcony. Then he served dinner INSIDE, and I forgot all about distancing. Oh well, we had a good time and I hope those 3 friends have been being careful. We are in sort of a remote area with few cases. We don't go anywhere else except the grocery store---in and out quick as possible. Everybody's masked.
I knew the virus hung in the air for 15 to 30 minutes, so got nervous even passing people while walking. We'd put our masks on when we knew someone was coming past us. We can only do so much, but do what we can.
I don't blame the CDC or any of the scientists for updating their recommendations as new info pours in. How could they know at first everything about a brand-new virus? New info=new recommendations. That's science!
and let's hope your panic attitude keeps you safe but let's not judge others who have a different opinion. There are pros and cons regardless of what side you are on. Using common sense while still enjoying life is the answer for many of us. For others total isolation might be the option.
It's interesting how frequently you try to deny I have a right to any sort of opinion that doesn't align perfectly with yours.
How about doing us both a favor -- and putting me on Ignore?
"The virus itself is a doozy, even with a best-case scenario version like mine. You get a little better and then you get a little worse. A few days ago, after nearly a week off work, I thought I had finally turned the corner. That night, I got lightheaded getting out of a hot bath and passed out walking back to my room."
Your risk of dying or getting the serious complications are measured in terms of a few in a million...For perspective, your risk of dying from leukemia is a few per 100,000--10x greater....A college student is 30x more likely to die from alcohol than from CoV.
We're not omnipotent like God-- He can afford to be The Good Shepard watching out for every individual lamb...Public policy must be set based on statistical analysis without regard to individuals.
so you saw an interview: wow!!! that's make everything you think 100% right, is that what you are saying? We do no know how we could have slowed this down, but I, for one do not think we could have stopped it as you are saying. Regardless of the age situation, underlining conditions of anything else the death rate and seriousness of the virus is still very, very low. Of course some are more likely to get it and get truly sick but still the chances, even for them is low as long as we practice common sense.
The death rate and "seriousness of the virus" is still very, very low????
Is it now???
Let's deal with FACTS and not opinions here....
194000 Americans DEAD from COVID 19 with current projections for up to 400000 dead by New Years...
3% case fatality rate which has held steady in the US for months....that would be the opposite of LOW
"Common sense" would dictate not eating indoors in restaurants during an ongoing pandemic with respiratory spread...something which you say you do....therefore you aren't really practicing "common sense" are you??
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