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Old 01-16-2016, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Cleveland
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Originally Posted by ManoftheNorth View Post
This is way too broad, Satellite Cities are usually in or near the metropolitan area of the parent city. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_town

For Detroit
- Pontiac
- Flint
- Ann Arbor
- Toledo
- Windsor
Okay, so you could qualify those as moons and Detroit as a planet, but what is the sun that Detroit orbits around?
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Old 01-16-2016, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Sault Ste. Marie, MI
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Okay, so you could qualify those as moons and Detroit as a planet, but what is the sun that Detroit orbits around?
Cities that anchor metros of 5 million people just aren't Satellite cities, especially to bigger cities that are hundreds of miles away.
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Old 01-16-2016, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Detroit
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Okay, so you could qualify those as moons and Detroit as a planet, but what is the sun that Detroit orbits around?
Detroit doesn't revolve around any city in any way. We are talking about one of the largest metros in America. Not only that but a pretty old city that has it's own culture, food, sports, music, identity, ect.

I can't imagine any city that large being a satellite city, even Philly has it's own identity despite being so close to NYC.

I find it hard to believe Cleveland revolves around NYC and Chicago despite it's smaller size.

Milwaukee might be an exception because their metro areas just about overlap and Milwaukee is alot smaller than Chicago.
Dallas could probably claim Ft. Worth.
Miami could probably claim Ft. Lauderdale and West Palm Beach
DC might be able to claim Baltimore but I'm not so sure about that one.
NYC can claim Newark.
Raleigh and Durham, NC are about the same thing.
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Old 01-16-2016, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Cleveland
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Detroit doesn't revolve around any city in any way. We are talking about one of the largest metros in America. Not only that but a pretty old city that has it's own culture, food, sports, music, identity, ect.

I can't imagine any city that large being a satellite city, even Philly has it's own identity despite being so close to NYC.

I find it hard to believe Cleveland revolves around NYC and Chicago despite it's smaller size.

Milwaukee might be an exception because their metro areas just about overlap and Milwaukee is alot smaller than Chicago.
Dallas could probably claim Ft. Worth.
Miami could probably claim Ft. Lauderdale and West Palm Beach
DC might be able to claim Baltimore but I'm not so sure about that one.
NYC can claim Newark.
Raleigh and Durham, NC are about the same thing.
Basically what I mean is when people want to go to the "big city" (10 mill plus metro) do they go to New York or Chicago? When I lived in MN, they went to Chicago. Here in Cleveland it's a split between NY and Chicago.
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Old 01-16-2016, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Detroit
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Basically what I mean is when people want to go to the "big city" (10 mill plus metro) do they go to New York or Chicago? When I lived in MN, they went to Chicago. Here in Cleveland it's a split between NY and Chicago.
Oh I think I see what your saying. Although I don't think Chicago is quite at 10 million yet (is it?).

When people I know from Detroit visit Chicago it's mostly for either family, friends, a Detroit vs Chicago game, or sometimes just to hangout for a weekend. I don't think that really qualifies though, alot of people say it's a bigger version of Detroit and that's why they love visiting. NYC on the other hand is the first city that comes to mind when talking about a "big city experience". When most people I know visit NYC it's mostly to experience the whole New York vibe and stuff. So ig NYC would be it. People who visit always come back saying how busy and crowded it was and how it was so much going on, ect. But people from around the globe visit NYC so that isn't too surprising.
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Old 01-16-2016, 08:53 PM
 
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Cleverfield: Sorry but this is your futile attempt to keep pounding this fallacy that Cleveland or the eastern part of Clevleand is an East Coast city. Nice try. Just stop. You're city is not accepted, get over it. Cleveland is Cleveland - its not a cousin to Boston or NYC. Heck, even people who live in Buffalo are not so concerned about establishing their "East Coast" identity.
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Old 01-16-2016, 09:51 PM
 
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Basically what I mean is when people want to go to the "big city" (10 mill plus metro) do they go to New York or Chicago? When I lived in MN, they went to Chicago. Here in Cleveland it's a split between NY and Chicago.
They don't. The majority of people I know in the Boston area have never been to NYC, let alone do it as some sort or regular trip to the "big city".
once you get beyond 2-2.5 hours (w/o traffic) from a place it loses almost all of its influence beyond sports fandoms.
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Old 01-16-2016, 11:21 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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Detroit doesn't revolve around any city in any way. We are talking about one of the largest metros in America. Not only that but a pretty old city that has it's own culture, food, sports, music, identity, ect.

I can't imagine any city that large being a satellite city, even Philly has it's own identity despite being so close to NYC. DC can have Fredericksburg, VA.

I find it hard to believe Cleveland revolves around NYC and Chicago despite it's smaller size.

Milwaukee might be an exception because their metro areas just about overlap and Milwaukee is alot smaller than Chicago.
Dallas could probably claim Ft. Worth.
Miami could probably claim Ft. Lauderdale and West Palm Beach
DC might be able to claim Baltimore but I'm not so sure about that one.
NYC can claim Newark.
Raleigh and Durham, NC are about the same thing.
DC can't claim Baltimore. Baltimore is it's own city and metro in its own right. Baltimore can claim York, PA, thought.
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Old 01-16-2016, 11:45 PM
 
Location: Cleveland
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Cleverfield: Sorry but this is your futile attempt to keep pounding this fallacy that Cleveland or the eastern part of Clevleand is an East Coast city. Nice try. Just stop. You're city is not accepted, get over it. Cleveland is Cleveland - its not a cousin to Boston or NYC. Heck, even people who live in Buffalo are not so concerned about establishing their "East Coast" identity.
That wasn't my attempt at all. Cleveland is an Eastern Great Lakes city (same family as Erie, Buffalo, Rochester, maybe Toronto). Nonetheless, smaller cities always seem to have a big city that they look up to, and perhaps try to emulate. In Cleveland I notice that we look up to New York. In Minneapolis they look up to Chicago. I was simply wondering if there were other mid-sized cities that similarly look up to a big city.
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Old 01-17-2016, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Montco PA
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Cleverfield: Sorry but this is your futile attempt to keep pounding this fallacy that Cleveland or the eastern part of Clevleand is an East Coast city. Nice try. Just stop. You're city is not accepted, get over it. Cleveland is Cleveland - its not a cousin to Boston or NYC. Heck, even people who live in Buffalo are not so concerned about establishing their "East Coast" identity.
I was thinking the same thing. Another attempt by an unabashed Cleveland booster to try and make that city appear like a cultural Mecca.
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