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misfitbanana, I would recommend uploading your autosomal (Family Finder) results to GEDmatch - Tools for DNA and genealogy research. This breaks it down even more and gives you another pool to "fish" from. It will take about 20 days to completely tokenize once it is loaded but will provide other info in the meantime. I have found it to be useful. My mother test as 95.6% Orcadian and 4.4% Middle Eastern on FTDNA FF. GEDmatch broke it down further. My brother tested thru Ancestry.com several years ago and unless it has greatly improved, I felt it was quite generic. Hope this helps!!
I sent my Raw DNA results from Ancestry.com to FTDNA. I am 93.52% Orcadian. My results from Ancestry 83% Great Britain. 3% Ireland. So I think they are spot on detecting which regions we descend from. 23 and me , may produce a fear factor, as they can determine which diseases we may succumb to. I have matched with more cousins from my paternal line than maternal. I am female. I still may consider 23 and me. I am as curious as the next guy!
I sent my Raw DNA results from Ancestry.com to FTDNA. I am 93.52% Orcadian. My results from Ancestry 83% Great Britain. 3% Ireland. So I think they are spot on detecting which regions we descend from. 23 and me , may produce a fear factor, as they can determine which diseases we may succumb to. I have matched with more cousins from my paternal line than maternal. I am female. I still may consider 23 and me. I am as curious as the next guy!
So does that mean you are mostly Orc?
What kind of Orc? Like Tolkien's Orcs? Or more like WH40K Orcs?
misfitbanana, I would recommend uploading your autosomal (Family Finder) results to GEDmatch - Tools for DNA and genealogy research. This breaks it down even more and gives you another pool to "fish" from. It will take about 20 days to completely tokenize once it is loaded but will provide other info in the meantime. I have found it to be useful. My mother test as 95.6% Orcadian and 4.4% Middle Eastern on FTDNA FF. GEDmatch broke it down further. My brother tested thru Ancestry.com several years ago and unless it has greatly improved, I felt it was quite generic. Hope this helps!!
Thank you! I've uploaded all my info to GedMatch, so hopefully I get some good results!
They have bulbs at the top, and look sorta scooped out in the middle, hence why they're called shovel teeth. There are different "grades" of Shovel teeth. Here is a link of a genetic analysis.
I also have more roots on my molars than most people do, and they go deep and attach to my jaw bone (when I had to get one out, the dentist actually had to use the drill against my bone) - these are very Native American traits as well (so I've read).
The marks near my retinal nerve show up like bright green dots. They look similar to a disease found in midwestern mud, but I've never actually visited the midwest, and people usually get sick when they get that disease, and I hadn't been sick in awhile. So after doing research, I found out that some Native Americans will have these marks show up (usually in just one eye, which is how mine is). It's benign and doesn't actually do any damage.
Asian Shovel Teeth Incisors (aka Shovel teeth) and there are different grades of them from a mild shovel to deeply pitted. The are usually the culprit in people misdiagnosing themselves as having American Indian ancestry. Some studies have shown degrees of tooth shoveling can vary from Plains Indians being the least to more common in the Pueblo for example. This is never reliable to determine Native American ancestry.
Here is a genetic study. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2756549/
"Do you see shovel-shaped incisors often in your practice? These teeth have prominent marginal ridges and a very deep fossa on the lingual. The same features may also appear on the facial surface in some cases. If you don’t see them often, they might make you look twice. If your patient base includes Asians, Native Americans, Eskimos or other Mongoloid people, you may have grown used to them. In fact, nearly 100% of Native Americans and Alaskans have shovel-shaped incisors. Caucasians only exhibit this unique shape 15% of the time and African Americans show it even less frequently." Shovel-Shaped Incisors | Daily Dental Dose
So they are seen in Caucasians, you are in the 15% especially since you have no genetic contributions from Asians/Native Americans.
This is a view of someone of Native Ancestry. Most Indigenous tend to have two front teeth that "wing" inward and shoveled.
Some are very deeply pitted.
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My front teeth used to wing (then I got braces and now they sorta overlap a little - the braces were not a good choice) - when I was young, there would be a space between that at the top that I could push a toothpick through, but the bottom of the teeth bumped up against each other (much more narrow across at the top than at the bottom). The middle picture is definitely representative of how the shovels in my teeth look. The bottom one doesn't seem right, though maybe that's because there's food or something in there (the dark marks)?
EDIT: My bottom front teeth still wing, actually, but I don't know if you were only talking about upper teeth.
Last edited by MisfitBanana; 02-19-2014 at 10:58 PM..
My front teeth used to wing (then I got braces and now they sorta overlap a little - the braces were not a good choice) - when I was young, there would be a space between that at the top that I could push a toothpick through, but the bottom of the teeth bumped up against each other (much more narrow across at the top than at the bottom). The middle picture is definitely representative of how the shovels in my teeth look. The bottom one doesn't seem right, though maybe that's because there's food or something in there (the dark marks)?
EDIT: My bottom front teeth still wing, actually, but I don't know if you were only talking about upper teeth.
Bottom teeth can shovel, slightly. Normally the top marginal incisors have the highest cases of "shoveling."
Here are pictures of a girl, who is Asian and she has some pics showing her bottom teeth. She has a high degree of tooth shoveling. Her bottoms are not as shoveled. Live. Laugh. Love: After 70 days of putting on braces
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