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Old 02-26-2016, 11:32 PM
 
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Tiegs is 68......guess what, you too are going to look quite zombieish when you get that old.

She speaks the truth, the "big" model appears to be obese......and people are mad at Tiegs for speaking something that should be quite obvious.
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Old 02-27-2016, 12:03 AM
 
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Well, I get what Tiegs is saying...

But, honestly, how many of the skinny models have drug addictions, smoke, have eating disorders, shoot up heroin/other drugs, etc...? The industry is littered with them, famous and non-famous alike.

So to point out a culturally "fat" or "thick" woman (whose only true issue may be that she is above average weight) seems hypocritical and shortsighted...
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Old 02-27-2016, 11:04 AM
 
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I didn't realize the SI cover was supposed to be the paradigm of fitness and health. Does anyone question a person's health of the waifish style models at all? Just because they are skinny they get an automatic pass?

SI puts beautiful women on the cover of their swimsuit issue. They put another beautiful woman on this year. Same as it ever was.
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Old 02-27-2016, 12:15 PM
 
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In Cheryl Tiegs' defense, it's not like she tweeted this sentiment, unsolicited. She was walking the red carpet and an entertainment 'reporter' pointedly asked her to comment on the cover. From that point on, there's a lot of grey area.

First of all, they deliberately asked Tiegs' because they knew she would give the controversial click-bait answer. Tiegs' either plain old just DGAF, because she's nearing 70 and is also the real life Patsy Stone from Absolutely Fabulous, OR, she's not media savvy enough to know that the entertainment tabloid papparatzzface was using her for click-bait, and thus should have given her the finger in the form of the canned and diplomatic response of "I think the cover is beautiful!". Someone like Cindy Crawford would have known better.

Second, Dr. Oz is a quack and a shill and anybody that cites him as a source automatically loses credibility. Also, so-called 'experts' who use arbitrary numbers as benchmarks for health...you should have a <35 inch waist; you should weigh 120 pounds; you should eat no more than 1200 calories a day; your BMI should be 22...generally have their heads up their asses.

Third, we are talking about the world of fashion models, not about health. I love when sanctimonious pearl clutchers turn these stories into hand wringing discussions about people's health. No one gives a damn about anyone's health. People just don't want to see fatties on the covers of magazines. As far as Sports Illustrated being a magazine about health & fitness, yeah m'kay. It's the People magazine of sports. It's not a fitness magazine. And the reason there are bikini models on the cover is because the target demo is men, and men like eye candy, which is all fine and good, but don't let's not pretend that anybody gives 2 farts about anybody's cardiovascular fitness, cholesterol, or propensity for the 'beetus.

Fourth, nobody in the fashion industry should be talking about anybody's health. We are talking about an industry that has promoted unhealthy body standards for CENTURIES...from the rib crushing corsets of the Victorian age for women pursuing a 19-inch waist, to the Twiggy era in the 60s, to heroin chic in the 90s. The fashion industry is notorious for taking already naturally svelte models, and encouraging them to get even more skinny by going on restrictive diets, diet pills, cigarettes, and drugs. And in this age, despite all that, the models are still photoshopped. As fat as we are in the first world, don't we also have the highest rates of eating disorders? Anorexia and bulimia are rampant, and now even in men. We can then argue that having a plus sized model on the cover of a magazine IS a good thing if only to balance out all that other bullshchidt.

Fifth, I know it's from the bygone era of Mad Men, but Cheryl Tiegs once shilled for Virginia Slims, so I think she needs to keep her Restylane injected lips shut.



SO HEALTHY.
Best response yet!!!!!! Well said. Rep't ya.
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Old 02-27-2016, 01:56 PM
 
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Who cares what Cheryl Tiegs says? Seems a little bitter about something.
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Old 02-27-2016, 02:06 PM
 
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We can then argue that having a plus sized model on the cover of a magazine IS a good thing if only to balance out all that other bullshchidt.
no. it would be better to encourage the cotton ball eating models to stop doing that and get up to a healthy weight. not start to glamorize being overweight because underweight models have been the thing for so long and now it is the overweight models turn.

no.

promote healthy lifestyle. the end.
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Old 02-27-2016, 02:42 PM
 
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On the last thread - the one that was closed because it was in the wrong section, I posted this:

The plus-sized model on the SI cover looked a bit.... pornographic to me. I'm not any huge Tiegs fan but she does have a point. Reminds me of the fb post that showed a 1940's picture of a fat man in the circus next to a present day picture of a young man who is way bigger than the circus "freak". It used to be rare to see grossly obese people but they've become the norm and are even celebrated. Reflects the glutony that has become our society. AND the "everybody's okay however they want to live as long as they're happy". Hogwash. (no pun intended)

Look at the beloved stars (and family members) who have "killed themselves" by obesity. It's NOT okay.
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Old 02-27-2016, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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In Cheryl Tiegs' defense, it's not like she tweeted this sentiment, unsolicited. She was walking the red carpet and an entertainment 'reporter' pointedly asked her to comment on the cover. From that point on, there's a lot of grey area.

First of all, they deliberately asked Tiegs' because they knew she would give the controversial click-bait answer. Tiegs' either plain old just DGAF, because she's nearing 70 and is also the real life Patsy Stone from Absolutely Fabulous, OR, she's not media savvy enough to know that the entertainment tabloid papparatzzface was using her for click-bait, and thus should have given her the finger in the form of the canned and diplomatic response of "I think the cover is beautiful!". Someone like Cindy Crawford would have known better.

Second, Dr. Oz is a quack and a shill and anybody that cites him as a source automatically loses credibility. Also, so-called 'experts' who use arbitrary numbers as benchmarks for health...you should have a <35 inch waist; you should weigh 120 pounds; you should eat no more than 1200 calories a day; your BMI should be 22...generally have their heads up their asses.

Third, we are talking about the world of fashion models, not about health. I love when sanctimonious pearl clutchers turn these stories into hand wringing discussions about people's health. No one gives a damn about anyone's health. People just don't want to see fatties on the covers of magazines. As far as Sports Illustrated being a magazine about health & fitness, yeah m'kay. It's the People magazine of sports. It's not a fitness magazine. And the reason there are bikini models on the cover is because the target demo is men, and men like eye candy, which is all fine and good, but don't let's not pretend that anybody gives 2 farts about anybody's cardiovascular fitness, cholesterol, or propensity for the 'beetus.

Fourth, nobody in the fashion industry should be talking about anybody's health. We are talking about an industry that has promoted unhealthy body standards for CENTURIES...from the rib crushing corsets of the Victorian age for women pursuing a 19-inch waist, to the Twiggy era in the 60s, to heroin chic in the 90s. The fashion industry is notorious for taking already naturally svelte models, and encouraging them to get even more skinny by going on restrictive diets, diet pills, cigarettes, and drugs. And in this age, despite all that, the models are still photoshopped. As fat as we are in the first world, don't we also have the highest rates of eating disorders? Anorexia and bulimia are rampant, and now even in men. We can then argue that having a plus sized model on the cover of a magazine IS a good thing if only to balance out all that other bullshchidt.

Fifth, I know it's from the bygone era of Mad Men, but Cheryl Tiegs once shilled for Virginia Slims, so I think she needs to keep her Restylane injected lips shut.



SO HEALTHY.

Lol, so despite your initial "in her defense" proclamation, you've come to the same "she should keep her mouth shut" conclusion that many others did here--and did succinctly.

Too funny
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Old 02-27-2016, 03:12 PM
 
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Tiegs is 68......guess what, you too are going to look quite zombieish when you get that old.

She speaks the truth, the "big" model appears to be obese......and people are mad at Tiegs for speaking something that should be quite obvious.
The first time I saw Ashley, I saw her face before I even saw her body, and I was like "Wow, who's she?". I think her face is gorgeous. That said, I honestly see the whole "putting a plus size model on the cover" thing as nothing more than tokenism. "Oh here, let's make bigger women feel good about themselves..."

You never see anybody clamoring to have plus-size male models on magazine covers or whatever.
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Old 02-27-2016, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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But, honestly, how many of the skinny models have drug addictions, smoke, have eating disorders, shoot up heroin/other drugs, etc...? The industry is littered with them, famous and non-famous alike.

So to point out a culturally "fat" or "thick" woman (whose only true issue may be that she is above average weight) seems hypocritical and shortsighted...
Agreed.

And since when has Sports Illustrated promoted healthy lifestyles? LMAO ...
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