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Old 12-04-2023, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Juneau, AK + Puna, HI
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I personally eat between 250-300g of protein a day, spread over 5 meals. I'm 225lbs, 6'4". I almost certainly don't need that much protein, but I do it to maintain muscle, and also keeps me full..
Wow. Well, you're a big active guy who needs a lot of calories.

My fitbit tells me I need those 2500 calories per day based on my "zone minutes". I'm a relatively active 65 year old, fraction of an inch taller than you but 50 lbs lighter. If I were to guess, my protein intake would be around 50 grams a day, possibly less. With not much muscle, it doesn't seem necessary for me to eat a lot of protein to maintain.

For seniors concerned about losing muscle, probably using those muscles is of paramount importance, right?
I'm still able to do just about any physical work or play that comes my way.

Feeling full anymore for me indicates I've overeaten.
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Old 12-04-2023, 04:31 PM
 
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Wow. Well, you're a big active guy who needs a lot of calories.

My fitbit tells me I need those 2500 calories per day based on my "zone minutes". I'm a relatively active 65 year old, fraction of an inch taller than you but 50 lbs lighter. If I were to guess, my protein intake would be around 50 grams a day, possibly less. With not much muscle, it doesn't seem necessary for me to eat a lot of protein to maintain.

For seniors concerned about losing muscle, probably using those muscles is of paramount importance, right?
I'm still able to do just about any physical work or play that comes my way.

Feeling full anymore for me indicates I've overeaten.
I don't trust those devices too much. I have an apple watch and use it for tracking steps and overall activity, but when exercising it has me burning around 1200 kcal an hour weight lifting, when I know it cannot be that much. For cardio though, it seems spot on.

I eat 3,000-3500 calories a day, so roughly 1/4-1/3 of my calories come from protein.

If you lift weights regularly, you're very sensitive to losing muscle mass (your strength declining). For day to day activities, obviously not something you'd notice. But losing 1 rep or going down in weight on my lifts is very psychologically painful.

By feel "full", I guess means not hungry. Protein keeps you satiated and longer, because it has a higher thermogenic effect. It takes longer to digest. And this is why older people need more, they become less efficient at digesting those necessary amino acids.

Besides keeping you full longer, it also costs your body more calories to digest. Eg You eat 100 kcal of protein, your body requires 30 kcal to digest, so you net 70. With fat, your body requires just 5 kcal, (so net 95) and with ordinary carbs, around 10 kcal (so net 90).
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Old 12-05-2023, 12:36 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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A very low-calorie diet that is mainly composed of less than stellar-quality food, I think I will pass.
They'll still lose weight.
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Old 12-05-2023, 05:02 AM
 
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3/4 of a small bananna? What do you do with the 1/4 that is left?
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Old 12-05-2023, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Dessert
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3/4 of a small bananna? What do you do with the 1/4 that is left?
All the calories fall out, and you can snack on it when nobody's looking.
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Old 12-05-2023, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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That calorie amount seems way too low.. I will be very depressed if I have to eat that little later in life just to maintain a normal weight lol.
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Old 12-05-2023, 05:51 PM
 
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That calorie amount seems way too low.. I will be very depressed if I have to eat that little later in life just to maintain a normal weight lol.
Hmmm, I would rethink the emphasis you place on food. For me, eating or not eating doesn't impact my enjoyment of life (those are activities I do and people I share them with). Sure, eating tasty food is pleasurable, but only for a fleeting moment, and always the first bite is always the best.
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