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Still don't believe you. If you aren't just making things up then I suspect that you are imagining all of this. God just doesn't interact with people the way you claim that God does with you.
I don't believe the poster either, at least not the 'religious experiences' that he claims as fact, even though the poster might sincerely believe these things have occurred. I would also be skeptical about the poster's early childhood experiences since the later ones are either intentionally fabricated or otherwise a symptom of delusion. If the poster is not simply playing games with us (it's possible), I'm wondering if he has ever been diagnosed with bipolar disorder or even schizophrenia. Religious delusional episodes are not uncommon in those suffering from these particular disorders.
That's suspicious: a person claiming they have "become free of sinning". Even with the Christian salvation (process), it doesn't make us super-human and infallible. That's part of why we have to remain close to God, remain aware and vigilant of our actions, and remember our weaknesses and those of others.
That title gave off a Red Flag right away. Also, whatever God does, it's from him and for his glory. We don't need to discuss our lives and our histories. That can come across as grandstanding and ego-stroking.
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How did God's voice sound? Well, the first time I heard Him, I turned around to see who was speaking then at other times, especially when He was telling me something secret about a person near me, or in the same room it was more like a whisper.
The things I have bolded are what convince me that what you say is true. I've had "experiences", some being hearing an audible voice. It was most certainly not a hallucination. I was wide awake, not sleep deprived, not on any medications, not having drunk any alcohol or taken drugs of any sort. It's the clearest sounding thing I've ever heard in my life. Not that the voice itself was clear sounding, but the sound of the voice was the clearest thing I've ever heard. Not even new ear buds compare. It was a whisper through my left ear, as though someone were standing just inches away from me. It was so jarring, both times, that it made me turn around only to find no one behind me. A non-descript voice, too. Neither distinctly male, nor distinctly female sounding.
Of course, I refuse to outright say I heard God, as the voice never identified itself. It truly is a moving experience, nonetheless.
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We started a conversation, all of a sudden God interrupts, and says to me "Tell him he wants to know me, but he is afraid of what his friends will think, and that he is sneaking drugs on and off the base.
I've never heard anything like that. Of the two times I've heard something, it's always been short and to the point, as though "it" wasn't trying to interfere with my life too much. The first time was something rather personal. The second time saved the life of a pet.
I don't believe the poster either, at least not the 'religious experiences' that he claims as fact, even though the poster might sincerely believe these things have occurred. I would also be skeptical about the poster's early childhood experiences since the later ones are either intentionally fabricated or otherwise a symptom of delusion. If the poster is not simply playing games with us (it's possible), I'm wondering if he has ever been diagnosed with bipolar disorder or even schizophrenia. Religious delusional episodes are not uncommon in those suffering from these particular disorders.
What pegs my irony meter in situations like this is that quite often I've been told, particularly by fundamentalist Christians (which I used to be) that I could never have truly been one of them or I would never have left. This is very common circular reasoning, as they cannot imagine ever losing faith (or perhaps, simply dare not).
So I am loathe to tell this guy his faith isn't genuine because that happened to me. I would have raised exactly zero eyebrows in the fundamentalist world, I fit right in.
On the other hand I think what he's being told isn't that his faith isn't genuine, but that his experiences are questionable. Which I can be comfortable with, because my particular denomination taught me that experiences can be deceptive and should be questioned by default. Everything was supposed to be based on the Bible, not on experience. Experiences that did not conform with the Bible (or at least our hermeneutic / interpretation) were to be rejected out of hand.
I agree that mental health issues come into play when people are hearing actual voices and other hallucinations.
Any mental health professional will tell you that religious delusions and hallucinations are the most common kind overall. Although I think that just reflects that because most people are religious, most mentally ill people are religious, and so their concerns are religious and therefore their disordered thoughts have religious themes. But when those religious thoughts become an obsession or start to blur the line between reality and fantasy, then even most religious authorities will agree that there's a problem.
God only has one promise that he will see no sin in you, completely sinless. If one can submit his flesh to the will of the spirit, his submission hides his sin.
God only has one promise that he will see no sin in you, completely sinless. If one can submit his flesh to the will of the spirit, his submission hides his sin.
Actually, what 'hides' our sin is the righteousness of Jesus which is credited or imputed to those who place their faith in Christ Jesus according to Romans chapters 3-5. The believer is 'clothed' in the righteousness of Christ.
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