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Old 05-24-2024, 12:39 PM
 
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Read this in a novel just now
"They added a large, purple and black sign"


I think the comma shouldn't be there, though I'm not sure of my argument. I guess I see "purple and black" as a single modifier; no comma needed with only two modifiers.

I'm definitely not suggesting an Oxford comma.

Any other opinions?
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Old 05-24-2024, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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I agree, leave it out.
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Old 05-24-2024, 02:07 PM
 
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You can count me as one more person who thinks that the comma should not be used in that context.
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Old 05-24-2024, 02:36 PM
 
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I think the key point here is whether the adjectives are of the same type or different types.

We could write ”they added a large heavy unbalanced oscillating purple and black sign” you could leave it comma-less as I have or write ”a large, heavy, unbalanced, oscillating, purple and black sign”.

If there are a bunch of colors you could have ”a large heavy unbalanced oscillating purple, red, green, and black sign” - meaning is totally clear; or ”a large, heavy, unbalanced, oscillating, purple red green and black sign” which is OK; or even ”a large, heavy, unbalanced, oscillating, purple, red, green, and black sign” which really gets into too many commas for my taste. I think that last would not explicitly violate any rules of usage, but it's really fugly. By the time you get to eight adjectives you'd do a whole lot better to break the thing up unless you specifically want to chain all that stuff together for effect.
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Old 05-25-2024, 10:10 PM
 
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I like the Oxford comma. But no comma at all here.
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Old 05-26-2024, 03:20 PM
 
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No comma.
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Old 06-02-2024, 10:03 PM
 
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I just finished another book, by a different author. They started out using a comma with just two adjectives. Then they doubled down and started using a comma between the two adjectives AND a comma between the last adjective and the noun.

For example:
It was a large, blue, bedspread.

Drove me nuts!

This is an author I usually enjoy reading. Maybe they've switched to AI proofing?
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Old 06-02-2024, 11:24 PM
 
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Yikes. Neue English is upon us.

The order of adjectives also matters to native English speakers (A 'blue, large bedspread' doesn't sound right). I predict that getting garbled as well.
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Old 06-02-2024, 11:42 PM
 
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Yikes. Neue English is upon us.

The order of adjectives also matters to native English speakers (A 'blue, large bedspread' doesn't sound right). I predict that getting garbled as well.
Yeah, I've come across instances of misordered adjectives, and they've always bugged me, but I didn't realize that there is an official order until I saw a YouTube about it a year ago.
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Old 06-04-2024, 10:26 AM
 
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I don't generally buy books from Amazon, but I've read complaints that there are a bunch of rip-off books there that are largely A.I. generated. Is there any possibility that this is the case with the book you are reading?
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