03-02-2009, 04:59 PM
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Im just curious . I havent lived in Loudoun County since 1998. I currently live in Richmond, but drive up to NOVA to do some shows like in Vienna, Fairfax, Leesburg, etc.
Growing up everyone was really friendly.
Anyways, people I meet up there still seem friendly enough. I am a very friendly person myself
I was just wondering why there are so many threads about rudeness in NOVA. I dont live there now, so I wonder if its changed a lot since the 90s.
03-02-2009, 05:12 PM
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Im just curious . I havent lived in Loudoun County since 1998. I currently live in Richmond, but drive up to NOVA to do some shows like in Vienna, Fairfax, Leesburg, etc.
Growing up everyone was really friendly.
Anyways, people I meet up there still seem friendly enough. I am a very friendly person myself
I was just wondering why there are so many threads about rudeness in NOVA. I dont live there now, so I wonder if its changed a lot since the 90s.
The new stereotype of NOVA incivility is probably less prevalent in Loudoun than Fairfax County, Arlington and Alexandria... and even then more so during the week when people deal with being sandwiched on the Metro or getting on the conga lines known as I-95 and I-66.
If you're driving up on weekends to Vienna and Leesburg, you'll probably see a lot more friendly faces than on a Monday afternoon coming out of Tysons Corner.
03-02-2009, 05:17 PM
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The new stereotype of NOVA incivility is probably less prevalent in Loudoun than Fairfax County, Arlington and Alexandria... and even then more so during the week when people deal with being sandwiched on the Metro or getting on the conga lines known as I-95 and I-66.
If you're driving up on weekends to Vienna and Leesburg, you'll probably see a lot more friendly faces than on a Monday afternoon coming out of Tysons Corner.
That might be true. I find the drivers actually in NOVA to be more courteous than Richmond drivers. I think its because they basically sit behind a red light all day long
Is the rudeness people refer to- more of an aloofness?
I always felt we were Southern, but someone coming from rural Alabama might feel NOVA is a bit less warm to them.
03-02-2009, 06:18 PM
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....I was just wondering why there are so many threads about rudeness in NOVA....
So you decided we need ANOTHER one? LOL
Oh, if you get arrested for reckless driving, be sure to start a thread about it....that's a perennial favorite around here!
03-02-2009, 06:34 PM
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No, I don't think people are rude at all. Perhaps a little more reserved than in some places but that's because they are busy and are more likely to spend their waiting time on the Metro, in lines, etc. being productive on their Blackberries or laptops or reading than making random small talk with strangers. If you initiate a conversation you'll usually get a polite response.
03-02-2009, 06:36 PM
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That might be true. I find the drivers actually in NOVA to be more courteous than Richmond drivers. I think its because they basically sit behind a red light all day long
Is the rudeness people refer to- more of an aloofness?
I always felt we were Southern, but someone coming from rural Alabama might feel NOVA is a bit less warm to them.
Some would say the the Mason-Dixon line has moved metaphorically down to about Fredericksburg, and maybe Fauquier County to the west. NOVA would seem to have a even more of an international influence, including a strong Northern presence, than it may have had when you were here.
03-02-2009, 09:49 PM
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That might be true. I find the drivers actually in NOVA to be more courteous than Richmond drivers. I think its because they basically sit behind a red light all day long
Is the rudeness people refer to- more of an aloofness?
I always felt we were Southern, but someone coming from rural Alabama might feel NOVA is a bit less warm to them.
It's aloofness (plus road rage). I feel like we Northerners are a bit misunderstood though. We're not totally unfriendly; we just don't see the point in small talk.
I might be the prototypical Northerner- I'll go out of my way to help people. If some little old lady asks me to get something off the top shelf at Giant, I'll gladly do it. If someone asks me for directions on the Metro, I'll go over exactly how to get them to Metro Center until they can't forget it.
...but if someone who I'll probably never see again comes up and asks me what I think of the weather, I'll probably just smile and nod. People who just start conversations with no reason kind of weird me out. I know they are just trying to be friendly, and I know it's common in the South, but it wasn't where I grew up, and so I'm just not used to it at all.
03-02-2009, 09:50 PM
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It's aloofness (plus road rage). I feel like we Northerners are a bit misunderstood though. We're not totally unfriendly; we just don't see the point in small talk.
Oh I see. Where are you from originally?
03-02-2009, 10:28 PM
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As a fellow Yankee residing on the outskirts of a medium-sized politically-moderate city I'm the
antithesis of pcity. I frequently strike up random conversations with complete strangers, and 99.9% of the time my efforts are met with a positive response. Most people whom I greet at work and say "How are you today?" give me the generic "Good" response, but more often than not here than in other areas that is followed by "How are you?" to which I also reply "Good." (Technically I ought to say "I am well, thank you," but I don't want to sound snobbish given the fact that I work in a home improvement store).
I find Northerners (at least here in Pennsylvania) to be downright friendly! If this stereotype about people in NoVA being standoff-ish is true, then I'm really not going to enjoy my impending relocation to Alexandria!
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03-03-2009, 12:30 AM
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As a fellow Yankee residing on the outskirts of a medium-sized politically-moderate city I'm the
antithesis of pcity. I frequently strike up random conversations with complete strangers, and 99.9% of the time my efforts are met with a positive response. Most people whom I greet at work and say "How are you today?" give me the generic "Good" response, but more often than not here than in other areas that is followed by "How are you?" to which I also reply "Good." (Technically I ought to say "I am well, thank you," but I don't want to sound snobbish given the fact that I work in a home improvement store).
I find Northerners (at least here in Pennsylvania) to be downright friendly! If this stereotype about people in NoVA being standoff-ish is true, then I'm really not going to enjoy my impending relocation to Alexandria!
Alexandria is friendly to me. But you wont find any real Southern hospitality until you get to Richmond.
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People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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