2022 CO State Ballot (low income, high school, landlords)

[Phil P]

Thought I'd throw a thread on here for discussions of the various state initiatives. Listed below are the titles and descriptions.

Ammendment E: Property tax deduction for spouses of veterans
Prop FF: Healthy School meals by income tax on those over 300K
Prop GG: Tax Tables on Ballots in the future
Prop 121: Income Tax Reduction from 4.55% to 4.40%
Prop 122: Shrooms and Cacti
Prop 123: TABOR refund towards affordable housing
Prop 124: Increase liquor store permits
Prop 125: Selling wine in grocery and convinience stores
Prop 126: Delivery for alcohol

Feel free to add any juicy local initiatives!

[Phil P]

And here's my $.02 on the intitatives.

Ammendment E: No. It'd be a pain in the butt to define who gets what and veterans already have so many programs. Not worthwhile jamming up the tax code with niche exemptions like this.

Prop FF: Yes. Simple thought here is why spend so much money on teaching and programs if kids aren't in a good pschycological state to learn because their blood sugar is spiking or crashing. My parents are voting no lol. But going to high school in CO, the meals really weren't that healthy. Mom and dad didn't always pack because I could make my own sandwhich, which I never did. I just had Triscuits in my backpack. To this day I can't stand turkey lunch meat.

Prop GG: Eh, likely no. The ballots are too long already.

Prop 121: No. CO is already in the bottom 25 of states for total tax burden and the state has a bad habit of defunding things like street lights or roads to make a budget fit.

Prop 122: Yes. Gen Z doesn't do alcohol, cacti is the next wave. All the yoga ladies in Georgia already microdose shrooms and we can't let GA pass up CO.

Prop 123: IDK, convince me city data.

Prop 124: No, cause prop 125 should be yes.

Prop 125: Yes. Make the strip mall landlords squeem. Seriously why not.

Prop 126: Leaning no. People who routinely get delivery are already slightly challenged in the pre frontal cortex and I could see where binge ordering could be a problem. It might keep drunk people off the road, but generally the order would precede the drunkeness. I think the potential increase in alcohol consumption is worse than a theoretical reduction in drunk driving.

Selling weed in El Paso County: Jeez, whoever owns Maggies farm is fighting this tooth and nail. Get with it El Paso County. You can get delta 8 gummies in Alabama gas stations...

[cowboyxjon]

I haven’t yet received my ballot, so I haven’t read much about these yet to have an opinion on many of them.

I am concerned about 122 in the regard that I was here for “medical marijuana” and that was a complete and total joke. I remember the “dispensaries” that advertised DOCTOR ON SITE, in which you could go in, tell them that you have chronic headaches, and walk out with a red card (I have friends who did this). To me, that was a complete and total joke, never meant to be taken seriously since it was more of a “nudge nudge, wink wink” kind of thing, and in my opinion was just a pathway to full legalization for everyone.

So now for shrooms and whatnot, I’d have to know more about how this would be implemented … or would it be just as ridiculous as how MMJ was introduced? I’m on board with allowing people to try psychedelics for medical reasons, but interested to know more about the ‘how’ it would be carried out.

In terms of FF, I’m a “no.” Low income families already have access to free and reduced lunches, so I’m not sure why we need to subsidize those who can afford it.

The rest of them … not sure yet.

[BarryK123]

Prop 121 - I'm voting yes on this. Polis' recent Tabor refund of a flat $750 was inherently unfair. It was an income redistribution scheme, not a refund. The refund should have been proportional to the taxes each of us paid. Lowering the tax rate will help prevent this nonsense in the future. Though CO may be in the bottom 25 in income tax rate, they make up for it in other ways, such as the motor vehicle property tax, which is on the high end among the states.

[davebarnes]

Already voted on October 7.
Just waiting for "counting day".

[BarryK123]

Originally Posted by davebarnes

Already voted on October 7.

Absentee ballot?

[COcheesehead]

Got our ballets yesterday. We’ll sit down this weekend with a press pot of coffee, research, chat and then fill out our ballots.

Funny story. Last election we went to a local winery and sat at a common table with a group of folks very different than us as told by them. We were discussing our ballot and they joined the conversation as Coloradans are known to sometimes do. No arguing, no cussing, just all of us hearing/listening to both sides. Kinda refreshing.

[Dreaming of Hawaii]

Has a Blue Book been sent out for this election? I always like to read their analyses of the issues.

[bluescreen73]

Originally Posted by Dreaming of Hawaii

Has a Blue Book been sent out for this election? I always like to read their analyses of the issues.

We got ours about a month ago. You can see it online here: https://leg.colorado.gov/sites/defau...sh_for_web.pdf

[bluescreen73]

Based on cursory reading here's my take:

D: Reassigning Judges from the 18th to the 23rd Judicial District. Yes
E: Unsure. It affects fewer than 500 people. leaning no
F: Charitable Gaming Operations. This is the 2nd time it's been on the ballot. No
FF: School lunches. If we're going to spend $100 million on schools, I want it in the classroom, not the lunchroom. No
GG: Tax Information Table to Petitions and Ballots. Pretty sure this is already available in the Blue Book. No
121: Tax rate reduction. Disproportionately skewed to those making > $1 mil/year. If there's an overage, they'll still get a refund. Leaning No
122: Psychadelics. No
123: Affordable housing. Undecided
124: Liquor Store Locations. It's stupid that big box liquor stores are limited to 3 locations statewide. Yes
125: Grocery Store Wine. I know a user on here who thinks it's draconian that he can't get wine at King Soopers - nevermind the fact that he came from a state with dry areas and liquor stores that close at the dumbass time of 9pm (and are closed on Sundays). Yes
126: Alcohol delivery. It's already happening. This just expands the existing rules to include deliveries by third-party vendors. Yes