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Old 04-11-2024, 01:45 PM
 
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Yes, he is

He is very interested in our collective management and administration of earth, as we are made in His image (and I think that is about our personalities which are our intellectual and emotional capacities)
Well, the planet is certainly in need of caretaking.
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Old 04-11-2024, 01:56 PM
 
Location: New Zealand
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Well, the planet is certainly in need of caretaking.
Absolutely!

In the 1st century the writers of the gospels and epistles were using a lot of agricultural terms, the farming concepts, the sowing and reaping, and we are told that the 1st century was the actual beginning that was being looked forward to…..

Ahhh, I mean the New Creation as distinct from what is termed the Old Creation

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Old 04-12-2024, 08:01 AM
 
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Hey, then God's an environmentalist.

What if energy simply always existed totally independently of God who simply made use of it? After all, if God didn't exist then energy HAD to have always existed in order for anything to be in existence.
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Good to see you posting even if it's just a "drive-by." The bold is my belief which is censored here.


Good to see you, Mystic. I don't want to get you thrown into cyber jail by asking, by why on earth would that be censored?
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Old 04-12-2024, 10:56 AM
 
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The OG.

Good to see you, Mystic. I don't want to get you thrown into cyber jail by asking, by why on earth would that be censored?
My PanENtheist views are in the "cyber jail" of a single Pantheism thread.
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Old 04-17-2024, 11:49 AM
 
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How do you know what those traditions are, if they are not in Scripture?

And what if one of the (supposed) traditions you choose to follow contradicts Scripture?
Your answer is given by Gamaliel 2000 years ago in acts 5 (v.34-39) - as well as Jesus himself @ Mat 16:18!
I guess some consider them both liars.
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Old 04-18-2024, 05:08 AM
 
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Your answer is given by Gamaliel 2000 years ago in acts 5 (v.34-39) - as well as Jesus himself @ Mat 16:18!
I guess some consider them both liars.
Nothing could ever destroy the church Jesus built. That’s what both Jesus and Gamaliel said in Matthew 16:18 and Acts 5:34-39.

Sadly, many were departing from the faith (His truth) before the last apostle, John, died. They began building their own churches (denominations), inventing their own man made traditions. They were not “of God.” The RCC is one of the earliest denominations on record. You’re right in that regard.

Many people do not understand that the sign in front of the building doesn’t determine whether they are the church that Jesus built. Whether it be Catholic, Orthodox, Baptist. Methodist, church of Christ, etc. isn’t the determining factor. What matters is whether they hold to the traditions of the apostles, both spoken and written.

”Therefore, brethren, stand fast and hold the traditions which you were taught, whether by word or our epistle.”. (2Timothy 2:15)

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Old 04-24-2024, 10:50 AM
 
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Nothing could ever destroy the church Jesus built. That’s what both Jesus and Gamaliel said in Matthew 16:18 and Acts 5:34-39.

Sadly, many were departing from the faith (His truth) before the last apostle, John, died. They began building their own churches (denominations), inventing their own man made traditions. They were not “of God.” The RCC is one of the earliest denominations on record. You’re right in that regard.

Many people do not understand that the sign in front of the building doesn’t determine whether they are the church that Jesus built. Whether it be Catholic, Orthodox, Baptist. Methodist, church of Christ, etc. isn’t the determining factor. What matters is whether they hold to the traditions of the apostles, both spoken and written.

”Therefore, brethren, stand fast and hold the traditions which you were taught, whether by word or our epistle.”. (2Timothy 2:15)

Thanks for your response MsKate.

On the above (that I bolded) - we know from early Christian Ignatius of Loyola (who was taught by John) in the year 107ad that:

"But consider those who are of a different opinion with respect to the grace of Christ which has come unto us, how opposed they are to the will of God."
"They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they confess not the Eucharist to be the flesh of our Saviour Jesus Christ, which suffered for our sins, and which the Father, of His goodness, raised up again. Those, therefore, who speak against this gift of God, incur death in the midst of their disputes."


Ch6&7, The Epistle of Ignatius to the Smyrnaeans, https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0109.htm


Do you consider Ignatius of Loyola to have been corrupt?
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